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** #8, mid sized, for when the coolant is compressed, hot gas out of the compressor to the condenser/scoop | ** #8, mid sized, for when the coolant is compressed, hot gas out of the compressor to the condenser/scoop | ||
** #6, the smallest, for when the coolant is mostly liquid out of the condenser/scoop to the evaporator via the dryer | ** #6, the smallest, for when the coolant is mostly liquid out of the condenser/scoop to the evaporator via the dryer | ||
*If you want to route the hoses along the right side of the fuse, the thicker fitting needs to be on the copilot side (the Layout diagram shows it the opposite way). | *If you want to route the hoses along the right side of the fuse, the thicker fitting needs to be on the copilot side (the Layout diagram shows it the opposite way). | ||
* There are two options for routing the hoses: through the tunnel or within the side walls. The kit contains only the fittings for the tunnel option (which needs "Z" adapters for the condenser; for routing in the side walls, you need plain 90 degree adapters on the condenser). Specify which routing you want when ordering. Airflow will exchange the Z fittings for 90 degree ones on request however they are made to order and it takes several weeks. | * If you need longer hoses, for example for routing the hoses in the engine compartment, www.acparts.com (Aero Climate Control Inc, 2012 Industrial Bld, Rockwall, TX 75087) sells them by the foot. The #10 hose has part no 3501028 ($4.60/ft as of 11/2024) and the #8 hose has part no 3501010 ($4.17/ft as of 11/2024). The hoses that come with the AC and the one acparts.com sell are the same, Goodyear Galaxy Reduced Barrier. | ||
* There are two options for routing the hoses: through the tunnel or within the side walls. The kit contains only the fittings for the tunnel option (which needs "Z" adapters for the condenser; for routing in the side walls, you need plain 90 degree adapters on the condenser). Specify which routing you want when ordering. Airflow will exchange the Z fittings for 90 degree ones on request however they are made to order and it takes several weeks.<br>This builder log from Allen documents using the tunnel: [https://airplane.allanglen.com/2022/04/16/a-c-line-routing/ AC-line tunnel routing] | |||
*When running the hoses outside the tunnel, they recommend running them to the right side of the firewall as the left side is busy with the oil cooler. | *When running the hoses outside the tunnel, they recommend running them to the right side of the firewall as the left side is busy with the oil cooler. | ||
*Note: If you use the [https://www.aerosportproducts.com/product/rv-10-interior-panels-2/ Aerosport interior panels], keep in mind that the recessed area for maps / the cup holder occupies the space between the panel and the outer skin which is separated by U-profiles all around, where you would probably want to route the hoses through. There is room for one hose all the way on the top but a modification to the right side panel is need if you run the second hose underneath it. | *Note: If you use the [https://www.aerosportproducts.com/product/rv-10-interior-panels-2/ Aerosport interior panels], keep in mind that the recessed area for maps / the cup holder occupies the space between the panel and the outer skin which is separated by U-profiles all around, where you would probably want to route the hoses through. There is room for one hose all the way on the top but a modification to the right side panel is need if you run the second hose underneath it. | ||
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** [https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/5269T19 McMaster Part No 5269T19, Snap Bushings for 3/4 inch hose] or<br>[https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/5269T107 McMaster Part No 5269T107, Snap Bushing for 3/4 inch hose, one size up and split] | ** [https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/5269T19 McMaster Part No 5269T19, Snap Bushings for 3/4 inch hose] or<br>[https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/5269T107 McMaster Part No 5269T107, Snap Bushing for 3/4 inch hose, one size up and split] | ||
** [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LP4F0EU Snap Bushings for 11/16 inch hose at Amazon] or<br>[https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/5269T106 McMaster Part No 5269T106, Snap Bushing for 11/16 hose, one size up and split] | ** [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LP4F0EU Snap Bushings for 11/16 inch hose at Amazon] or<br>[https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/5269T106 McMaster Part No 5269T106, Snap Bushing for 11/16 hose, one size up and split] | ||
* When picking a spot on the firewall for mounting the fittings, be sure that the engine mount doesn't interfere with the fitting / hose. The bulkhead fitting plus the hose fitting add to quite some length before making a turn. If you need less space, consider using a 90 degree hose fitting with integrated bulkhead mount, e.g. | * When picking a spot on the firewall for mounting the fittings, be sure that the engine mount doesn't interfere with the fitting / hose. The bulkhead fitting plus the hose fitting add to quite some length before making a turn. If you need less space, consider using a 90 degree hose fitting with integrated bulkhead mount, e.g. for the #10 hose, part SR1723 from [https://www.acparts.com/product/90-degree-male-insert-o-ring-mio-bulkhead-10-1341047/ AC Parts]. If you buy fittings, they must be "reduced barrier" (thinner walls / smaller OD) and the o-ring type. For inside the fuselage, they should be aluminum with steel sleeves to be light but bulkhead through-wall fittings and fittings within the engine compartment are made entirely out of steel. Check with a magnet to keep them apart.<br>[[File:2023-02-26 16-59-15.jpg|300x300px]] | ||
===== Crimping Fittings to the Hoses ===== | ===== Crimping Fittings to the Hoses ===== | ||
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=====Torques===== | =====Torques===== | ||
The manual doesn't mention any torques for the fittings. The internet provides vastly different values, potentially because there are aluminum fittings and steel ones (firewall and forward, use steel fittings): | |||
* Consider using [http://rotorcraftservices.com/dev/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/IM-350-00-011-LAW.pdf this certified helicopter AC manual] which has these values on page 27: | |||
** #6 30-35 in/lb | |||
** #8 40-45 in/lb | |||
** #10 50-55 in/lb | |||
* Consider using [https://documents.holley.com/cap-365m-289_instructions.pdf this car AC manual] which has these values: | |||
** #6 11-13 ft/lb | |||
** #8 11-20 ft/lb | |||
** #10 21-27 ft/lb | |||
===== Charging the System ===== | |||
* See this [https://vansairforce.net/threads/charging-airflow-systems-ac-system.236187/ VAF thread] | |||
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