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Special/New Tools/Supplies | Special/New Tools/Supplies | ||
* See [[Window Care]] for tips and tricks on taking care of your Plexiglass windows | |||
* Consider an angle grinder with stone wheel if you are going to be using McMaster seals on your doors. There is a lot of fiberglass to remove. | * Consider an angle grinder with stone wheel if you are going to be using McMaster seals on your doors. There is a lot of fiberglass to remove. | ||
* Safety wire and safety wire pliers if you don't already have them. | * Safety wire and safety wire pliers if you don't already have them. | ||
* Small syringes ([https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DF2DVGDX like these]) to insert epoxy into any missing areas after binding the doors together | * Small syringes ([https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DF2DVGDX like these]) to insert epoxy into any missing areas after binding the doors together | ||
* Large syringes ([https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPKPT2JB like these]) help if you are using the McMaster seals. | * Large syringes ([https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPKPT2JB like these]) help if you are using the McMaster seals. | ||
* It's nice to be able to remove and re-install the protective wrap on the windows while working on them, and you probably want to end with a nice clean protective wrap as well. Consider buying a role of [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GWCJYTV Collision Wrap]; one roll will be plenty for several coatings of all of your transparencies. | |||
* If you are using a window install method that needs deeper window pockets, consider ordering four pieces of Polypropylene Rod, 1/4" Diameter, 8 Feet Long (McMaster part 8658K51) while ordering your door seal. You can temporarily fit these into the window openings as spacers to help build up epoxy around the windows to the proper depth as shown in this photo. See also this [https://www.facebook.com/groups/vansrv10/posts/23928075716886869 FB thread]. | * If you are using a window install method that needs deeper window pockets, consider ordering four pieces of Polypropylene Rod, 1/4" Diameter, 8 Feet Long (McMaster part 8658K51) while ordering your door seal. You can temporarily fit these into the window openings as spacers to help build up epoxy around the windows to the proper depth as shown in this photo. See also this [https://www.facebook.com/groups/vansrv10/posts/23928075716886869 FB thread]. | ||
[[File:2025-06-26 18.52.29.jpg|none|thumb|1/4" plastic spacers temporarily epoxied into window opening to make it easy to build up the epoxy around.]] | [[File:2025-06-26 18.52.29.jpg|none|thumb|1/4" plastic spacers temporarily epoxied into window opening to make it easy to build up the epoxy around.]] | ||
* Again, if you plan to deepen the window pockets, a detail belt sander can be extremely useful for finishing out the window openings. This has other future uses as well (e.g. avionics cutouts, overhead console openings, etc). | * Again, if you plan to deepen the window pockets, a detail belt sander can be extremely useful for finishing out the window openings. This has other future uses as well (e.g. avionics cutouts, overhead console openings, etc). | ||
Modifications to Consider | Modifications to Consider | ||
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* The PlaneAround Center Cam is considered a must-have safety device by most builders. | * The PlaneAround Center Cam is considered a must-have safety device by most builders. | ||
* Especially if using the McMaster seals, consider using [https://planearound.com/shop/ols/products/door-strut-attach-brackets-set-of-two upgraded door strut mounts]. | * Especially if using the McMaster seals, consider using [https://planearound.com/shop/ols/products/door-strut-attach-brackets-set-of-two upgraded door strut mounts]. | ||
* Consider using [https://planearound.com/shop/ols/products/rv-10-ss-angled-door-pins-and-delrin-pin-guides upgraded door pins and guides]. | * Consider using [https://planearound.com/shop/ols/products/rv-10-ss-angled-door-pins-and-delrin-pin-guides upgraded door pins and guides]. They are made of polished stainless steel vs. hollow aluminum tubes, and the thicker guides are forcing the door into a specific left/right position when closing. | ||
* Consider using [https://brassmonkey.tech/product-category/rv10-parts/ door mount capture plates] to make installing and removing the door much easier. On the cabin-top side, these are especially nice if you have the overhead console restricting access to the back side of the hinge plates. On the door side, these make it easier to epoxy and clean up the hinge mount point to the door. Either way, these make it quick and easy to remove the doors (which you'll do quite a few times). | * Consider using [https://brassmonkey.tech/product-category/rv10-parts/ door mount capture plates] to make installing and removing the door much easier. On the cabin-top side, these are especially nice if you have the overhead console restricting access to the back side of the hinge plates. On the door side, these make it easier to epoxy and clean up the hinge mount point to the door. Either way, these make it quick and easy to remove the doors (which you'll do quite a few times). | ||
* Four sensors to make sure the four door pins are properly latched are critical to flight safety. Here is one [https://airplane.allanglen.com/2023/11/05/door-pin-sensors/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExcWQyVmh4bnp6aWJwTmRpdAEeaL_OSWvmreEyzkA-dgA1Sob542t4S9NTZKGWetK2PuUAd9wIsMN-wWwznqg_aem_qPCxa2l8m6JcED0GZPidog alternative method] of mounting those sensors. | |||
== General == | == General == | ||
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* Important: if you are using the Planearound 180-degree cam AND the Aerosport low-profile exterior door handles, [https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/85ec6025-f02d-4bd9-b354-d9bef14e3672/downloads/e338c50b-3a76-446a-920a-64b0f7271a21/Door%20Mechanism%20Installation%20Compilation%20Docume.pdf?ver=1738948265394 this guide] will save you many hours of frustration. | * Important: if you are using the Planearound 180-degree cam AND the Aerosport low-profile exterior door handles, [https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/85ec6025-f02d-4bd9-b354-d9bef14e3672/downloads/e338c50b-3a76-446a-920a-64b0f7271a21/Door%20Mechanism%20Installation%20Compilation%20Docume.pdf?ver=1738948265394 this guide] will save you many hours of frustration. | ||
* This is a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXQlKcADOE pretty good video] showing the full door process. | * This is a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXQlKcADOE pretty good video] showing the full door process. | ||
* If you are using both the Aerosport Low-profile exterior door handles and the Aerosport interior door handle covers, see the necessary modifications [https://vansairforce.net/threads/aerosport-door-handle-cover-issue.180680/post-1416983 on this VAF post] -- specifically see the image on where to trim the plates. | |||
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* Step 6: The doubler does not fit well. It is possible to reduce some of the bend but if you press too hard, the edge flange will buckle. Do not try to grind a curvature into the fiberglass, it is too thin. Consider using a thick layer of flox or cabosil epoxy mix to bridge the gap between the inner door half and the doubler. | * Step 6: The doubler does not fit well. It is possible to reduce some of the bend but if you press too hard, the edge flange will buckle. Do not try to grind a curvature into the fiberglass, it is too thin. Consider using a thick layer of flox or cabosil epoxy mix to bridge the gap between the inner door half and the doubler. | ||
* Step 7: Keep the surface of the doubler clean in the area where the strut attach bracket will later sit. You will be using pull rivets to attach the bracket and the rivets need a flush surface to not get crooked during pulling. | |||
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* A bolt is used as hinge pin. Consider grinding down the head a bit if it interferes with the cabin pocket. | * A bolt is used as hinge pin. Consider grinding down the head a bit if it interferes with the cabin pocket. | ||
* A group of builders are working on a hinge cover, see [https://cad.onshape.com/documents/84d0ba8a64dbd86d8aee8ad1/w/ed92d4e493cd33946f3013d2/e/1d170d74353b23aebd0a0215 OnShape CAD project], check fit using this 1:1 print [[Media:Hinge cover v2.pdf| pdf file]] | * A group of builders are working on a hinge cover, see [https://cad.onshape.com/documents/84d0ba8a64dbd86d8aee8ad1/w/ed92d4e493cd33946f3013d2/e/1d170d74353b23aebd0a0215 OnShape CAD project], check fit using this 1:1 print [[Media:Hinge cover v2.pdf| pdf file]] | ||
* The plans provide instructions for fitting the hinges to the LHS door, and Step 3 provides the positions for the WD-1019-L and WD-1019-R hinges. The plans then instruct the builder to 'repeat this step for the right side door hinges'. Note: the WD-1019-L | * The plans provide instructions for fitting the hinges to the LHS door, and Step 3 provides the positions for the WD-1019-L and WD-1019-R hinges. The plans then instruct the builder to 'repeat this step for the right side door hinges'. Note: the WD-1019-L hinges must be placed on the left side, "-R" on the right side if you stand in front of each door and look at it. | ||
* A [[3D-Printed Tools and Parts|3D printable Aalignment jig]] is available to use in lieu of three scrap aluminum spacers. | * A [[3D-Printed Tools and Parts|3D printable Aalignment jig]] is available to use in lieu of three scrap aluminum spacers. | ||
* More than one AN960-10 washer will likely be required on some of the screws in order to get them to tighten up. Add more washers as needed. <br>[[File:WD-1019-L-R Hinges.jpg|300px|Cabin door hinge placement]]<br>See also section 4:<br>[[File:Screen_Shot_2024-04-03_at_8.29.19_AM.png|500px]] | * More than one AN960-10 washer will likely be required on some of the screws in order to get them to tighten up. Add more washers as needed. | ||
* Check that the top edge of the door is flush with the cabin top and add shims underneath the door side hinge tab if you need to raise the door. For example, the rear hinge might need a 0.080", and the forward hinge might need a 0.060 shim.<br>[[File:WD-1019-L-R Hinges.jpg|300px|Cabin door hinge placement]]<br>See also section 4:<br>[[File:Screen_Shot_2024-04-03_at_8.29.19_AM.png|500px]] | |||
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[[File:2025-07-28 14.46.13.jpg|none|thumb|Window joggle depth increased to 1/4" deep (3/16" deep along the bottom edge) after the poly rod was removed. Note some epoxy did not adhere well because the radius was not sanded thoroughly enough.]] | [[File:2025-07-28 14.46.13.jpg|none|thumb|Window joggle depth increased to 1/4" deep (3/16" deep along the bottom edge) after the poly rod was removed. Note some epoxy did not adhere well because the radius was not sanded thoroughly enough.]] | ||
[[File:2025-07-28 14.46.08.jpg|none|thumb|Side windows after joggle depth increased. Rear window poly rod has already been removed. Front window poly rod is still in place with temporary epoxy. Note at the bottom left corner there is some black-colored epoxy. This is where the rod did not fully fit into the radius and some black epoxy was pushed down in that gap. Later, when sanding, you can feel safe removing that black epoxy and rebuilding the original radius.]] | [[File:2025-07-28 14.46.08.jpg|none|thumb|Side windows after joggle depth increased. Rear window poly rod has already been removed. Front window poly rod is still in place with temporary epoxy. Note at the bottom left corner there is some black-colored epoxy. This is where the rod did not fully fit into the radius and some black epoxy was pushed down in that gap. Later, when sanding, you can feel safe removing that black epoxy and rebuilding the original radius.]] | ||
== Window Bonding == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+Silpruf vs. Sikaflex | |||
! | |||
!Silpruf SCS2000 | |||
!Sikaflex 295-UV | |||
|- | |||
|Chemistry | |||
|Silicone | |||
|Polyurethane | |||
|- | |||
|Consistency | |||
|paste | |||
|thick | |||
|- | |||
|Application | |||
|regular Caulk Gun | |||
|High Thrust Caulk and Adhesive Gun | |||
|- | |||
|UV Resistance | |||
|100% UV resistant | |||
|May be affected by UV long term | |||
|- | |||
|Activator/Cleaner/Primers | |||
|consider using SS4044P primer for gelcoat side | |||
|consider using activator cleaner, then two different primers for window / gelcoat side | |||
|- | |||
|Later Window Replacement | |||
|Old window can be cut out with blade or string. | |||
|Very hard to remove old window / sealant, needs grinder. | |||
|- | |||
|Tensile strength | |||
|341 psi (ASTM D412), 140.5 psi (ASTM C1135) | |||
|290 psi (CQP036-1 / ISO 527) | |||
|- | |||
|Elongation | |||
|715% (ASTM D412), 353% (ASTM C1135) | |||
|500% (CQP036-1 / ISO 527) | |||
|- | |||
|Sanding / Painting | |||
|Cannot be sanded or painted. Must not spill onto surfaces to be painted later. | |||
|Can be sanded and painted. | |||
|- | |||
|Temperature range | |||
| -55F to 300F | |||
| -58F to 194F | |||
|- | |||
|Work Life | |||
|30-40 min | |||
|45 min | |||
|- | |||
|Cure time | |||
|2-3 mm thickness per 24h at 73F and 50% humidity | |||
|2-3 mm thickness per 24h at 73F and 50% humidity | |||
|- | |||
|Application environment | |||
|40F to 122F | |||
|50F to 90F | |||
|- | |||
|Price | |||
|Sealant: $10.25 per 10 oz @ Sunshine Supply | |||
Primer Canopy side (SS4044P): $97.95 @ Sunshine Supply | |||
Primer Window side: none | |||
|Sealant: $24.79 @ Westmarine | |||
Activator/Cleaner (205, Clear): $33.09 @ Westmarine | |||
Primer Canopy side: (206 G+P): $96.57 @ Westmarine | |||
Primer Window side: (209D, Black): $112.55 @ Westmarine | |||
|} | |||
=== Silpruf Method === | === Silpruf Method === | ||
* [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KZYJAW Silpruf @ Amazon] | * [https://www.sunshinesupply.com/SCS2000Slnt10ozStdCrt Silpruf @ Sunshine Supply] | ||
* [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KZYJAW Silpruf @ Amazon] (note that more colors may be available from other sources); you will need at least 2 standard tubes, possibly 3 total. | |||
* [https://www.sunshinesupply.com/SS4044Prmr1PtUnt SS4044P Primer for Silpruf (cabin side) @ Sunshine Supply] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A336SG-fsiI 5-part instructional video] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A336SG-fsiI 5-part instructional video] | ||
* See also [[Media:SilPruf Window instructions.pdf|Dan H's write-up of the above Silpruf Method]] | * See also [[Media:SilPruf Window instructions.pdf|Dan H's write-up of the above Silpruf Method]] | ||
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* Skip this whole page if using the Aerosport low-profile exterior door handles | * Skip this whole page if using the Aerosport low-profile exterior door handles | ||
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* Step 3: The handle lever might be covered with a very thin, clear protection foil. Remove it before deburring / polishing! | |||
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* Step 2: consider deferring the marking of the holes until you have installed the door seals and the strut. These items may slightly change where you want the door to sit. | * Step 2: consider deferring the marking of the holes until you have installed the door seals and the strut. These items may slightly change where you want the door to sit. | ||
* Step 2: You can still use this same method to mark the door sill even if you are using the upgraded PlaneAround machined door pins. Follow all instructions normally including cutting and tapping the Van's door pins. Then screw in the double-ended screw that came with the PlaneAround 180-degree latch. Then fabricate two 2" pieces of aluminum using the scraps from cutting the original Van's door pins. Tap both ends. Screw one end into the double-ended screw, then screw the fabricated pointy screws into the other end. The photo below shows the pointy screw installed into the fabricated temporary tube which is screwed into the actual threaded door pin after it was cut. | * Step 2: You can still use this same method to mark the door sill even if you are using the upgraded PlaneAround machined door pins. Follow all instructions normally including cutting and tapping the Van's door pins. Then screw in the double-ended screw that came with the PlaneAround 180-degree latch. Then fabricate two 2" pieces of aluminum using the scraps from cutting the original Van's door pins. Tap both ends. Screw one end into the double-ended screw, then screw the fabricated pointy screws into the other end. The photo below shows the pointy screw installed into the fabricated temporary tube which is screwed into the actual threaded door pin after it was cut.<br>[[File:2025-07-05 11.56.15.jpg|none|thumb|Van's method to mark where to drill door pin holes into cabin top, but since the builder is using aftermarket PlaneAround machined pins, an temporary double-threaded spacer was used.]][[File:20260212 002717 FFD36479.jpg|none|thumb|Alternatively to the above elongation method for the pointers, one can add layers of shrink tube and or tape around the pointer so it sits tightly in the guide. The trimmed tubes are long enough to accomplish the marking up step.]] | ||
[[File:2025-07-05 11.56.15.jpg|none|thumb|Van's method to mark where to drill door pin holes into cabin top, but since the builder is using aftermarket PlaneAround machined pins, an temporary double-threaded spacer was used.]] | * Step 3 / Figure 1: The instructions are incorrect. You need to shim the inside (where the two center punched points are) during drilling. Hint: the piano hinge flanges are 40/1000" thick. Note: The aftermarket pin guides are ready to be used, there is no need to prepare and install the stock ones first. | ||
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==== Step 1 ==== | |||
* Check the position of the strut versus the hinge. The innermost hole of the strut is about at the position where the hinge pin resides. If you mount the strut bracket too far outwards, the bracket for the strut on the door end cannot be placed above the window, it would overlap with the window. | |||
* Also be careful with the angle of the struct attach bracket, specifically how the outboard end lines up with the future position of a closed door; at least one builder had a situation where the closed door hits this strut attach bracket. | |||
* If you are getting the Aerosport overhead panel, you need to match drill the door strut attach bracket to the canopy before attaching the overhead panel. It is necessary to notch the overhead panel for the bracket. | |||
* If you are getting the after-market PlaneAround DOOR STRUT ATTACH BRACKETS, do not match drill with a #12 bit since the holes are already threaded for 10-32 bolts. Consider match drilling with a #22 bit, then enlarging the hole to size #12. You may have to chase the bracket threads with a 10-32 tap if the #22 drill bit damaged them. | |||
==== Step 3 ==== | |||
* If you are getting the after-market PlaneAround DOOR STRUT ATTACH BRACKETS, two of the four bushings need to be narrower, 3/8 inch instead of 9/16. | |||
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* Step 2: Consider using stronger, larger diameter blind rivets with a larger bulb to attach the C-1013 strut attach brackets, e.g. CR3213-5-2 (nominal sized, grip .063-.125), CR3213-5-3 (nominal sized grip.126-.187), CR3243-5-2 (1/64 over-sized, grip .063-.125) or CR3243-5-3 (1/64 over-sized grip.126-.187) depending on availability and thickness. See also this [https://youtu.be/7CmFWatKb9c?si=zZu1B9cwVwgJHOGQ&t=268 YouTube video from Base Leg Aviation]. | |||
* Pin plates are not needed if using PlaneAround pins/guides. | * Pin plates are not needed if using PlaneAround pins/guides. | ||
* If using McMaster seals you will do this completely different. You will remove the lip from the door opening on the cabin top until it is completely flat (parallel to the door). Consider using an angle grinder with stone wheel for this step. If the lip flares out (towards the door) at at any point it will need to be ground down. Consider a minimum gap of 3/8" all around when the door is closed and clamped flush. | * If using McMaster seals you will do this completely different. You will remove the lip from the door opening on the cabin top until it is completely flat (parallel to the door). Consider using an angle grinder with stone wheel for this step. If the lip flares out (towards the door) at at any point it will need to be ground down. Consider a minimum gap of 3/8" all around when the door is closed and clamped flush. | ||
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